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Feral Finster's avatar

The problem is that the Russian leadership refused to recognize this basic fact.

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Memento Maxolga's avatar

And which " basic fact " Russian Leadership " refuses to recognize" ? Western folks refuse to recognize several basic facts about modern Russian Federation : Russia historically is a nation of warriors and successfully fought off several huge invasions and emmerged victorious. Americans and the rest of the Westerners, for example, do not know and do not study the real history of the WWII . Americans do not even know ehat the real war is. Americans do not know what it is to fight the war on their own territory, on their own homeland, when the enemy kills and rapes your family and burns down your house. How many Americans died in their own country during WWII, ha? There 27 millions of Soviet people , mostly Russians died during 1941-1945 .. Westerners do not understand Russia , Russian culture and values , mentality, civilization , let alone Russian strategic and military thoughts and system.

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Feral Finster's avatar

"And which " basic fact " Russian Leadership " refuses to recognize" ? "

May 2nd, 2014, is when the war started.

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GM's avatar

True.

And then repeated the exercise in burying its head in the sand after Crocus City Hall too. Lots of outrage was expressed in the days immediately after, some threats were issued, then the whole thing was forgotten without anything happening to those who organized it.

Notice the basic similarities between the events -- we stuff a bunch of Russians in a building, then set it on fire, and prevent escape. It didn't quite work out as fully planned in Moscow, but the plan was obvious.

And to everyone in Russia the symbolism of it should be inescapable, because people in Russia have grown up with the images of Nazi death squads herding whole villages into churches and barns, setting them on fire, then finishing off whoever tried to escape. Images they have seen many times in movies and documentaries about WWII, when the Nazis, and their Ukrainian collaborators, did this countless times.

I don't know if they wanted to send that kind of message in Odessa ten years ago, they may well have, but Crocus City was quite likely planned with it in mind, because such symbols have featured in many of the West's actions. Notice how the US Congress passed the money for Ukraine on April 20th. They didn't have to do it on that exact date, and it was a Saturday too, but they did. April 20th is Hitler's birthday. The first Kerch bridge bombing was timed for Putin's birthday. Etc. etc.

And yet the Kremlin continues to sit on its hands...

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Memento Maxolga's avatar

" burying its head in the sand after Crocus City Hall TOO "? Just this one statement shows absolute lack of knowledge and understanding of what, how and why Russian leadership does and does. What do you propose Russia had to do after the terrorist acts perpetraited against their civilians ? Become terrorists and start killing civilians in former Ukraine and in UK & US, right? Or change Russian very SUCCESSFUL STRATEGY of ATTRITION of the enemies' military and begin to carpet bomb ukies with the civilians and all just like the US/ NATO has been doing in Iraq, right? It's just amazing that you and your kind just incapable of even seeing the obvious -- Russia already strategically won in every aspect of this war against the US/NATO in Ukraine: Russia won militarily and is basically finishing off the achievement of their main goal -- the demilitarization of ukrainians and demilitarization of NATO too; Russian won economically regardless of all the sunctions ; Russia won in Foreghn Policy and the majority of the World is joining Russia to trade and to cooperate ; most importantly -- Russia won the arms race against the combined West, period.

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GM's avatar
Jan 5Edited

>What do you propose Russia had to do after the terrorist acts perpetraited against their civilians ? Become terrorists and start killing civilians in former Ukraine and in UK & US, right?

Of course, not. What kind of an idiot would do that?

You do surgical strikes on the people responsible, in their mansions, skyscrapers and bunkers.

Directly and as publicly as possible, so that nobody ever dares do it again.

>Or change Russian very SUCCESSFUL STRATEGY of ATTRITION

So successful has this strategy been that the war is fought entirely on official Russian territory except for the small piece of Kharkov region, and in reality it is 500 to 1000 km deep into Russian territory, with the Nazis heirs in Europe and across the pond sleeping safe and sound without a care. This now almost for three years, and with zero prospect of finishing within another three years either.

Why? Because the Kremlin refuses to use the abundant tools at its disposal to end it immediately, which it can do literally today if someone there finally appears who actually cares about Russia....

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Surgical strikes?

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Memento Maxolga's avatar

Just an emotional writing. "May 2nd, 2014, and Russia's shameful inaction afterwards is why God did not grant us an easy victory." --is a rediculous statement that completely contradicts the facts . I guess, folks like the author of this article always expects Russia to react to any provocation by the West , to become emotionally unhinged and, in the manner of Americans & Britts ,start something stupid like the usual expeditionary force operation the US does all over the world, -- right? Russia took back Crimea ffs, supported Donbass , began Minsk agreement &ect. Same goes for an " easy victory " uneducated, ignorant bs statement . People like the author assume that strategic (!) victory against the combined West can be easy , right? As far as events in Odessa -- it's correct , but the author fails to mention many events that occured for over decade since the collapse of Soviet Union , and failed to mention how long the West groomed & financed ukro-nazis before they activated the coup in Kiev in 2014.

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the long warred's avatar

Sad but true

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Judith Stapleton's avatar

Thank you for giving us this horrifically cruel truth. I live in Vancouver, British Columbia, and I too long to see the Russian flag over Kulikovo Field, soon.

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Andre K's avatar

Russia lost badly the battle of Odesa.

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Andre K's avatar

The Russians had the opportunity to leave the Trade union building before the Ukrainian side came. But the Russian side decided to stay and fight. They lost and started throwing Molotov cocktails from the roof. As one said, did they expect the Ukrainians to throw flowers back on them?

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Gene's avatar

This is a very nicely written piece. Well done.

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Will Food Forest Permaculture's avatar

Jewish bankers at the top every single time. Igor kolomoisky was their point man. The Jew who used Nazis. WW2 bad juju deja vu voodoo judoh oi veh please read these must save articles which prove history

https://www.haaretz.com/2014-10-18/ty-article/.premium/the-most-powerful-jew-in-the-world/0000017f-ea28-d639-af7f-ebffe41b0000

igor was zelenskys puppetmaster. Zelensky came 100% from Igor kolomoisky. They were money laundering partners way back through Igor's TV station and zelenskys comedy club. Low life Jew thugs. Disgusting. Hunter Biden on Igor's payroll at 50k/ month+ $10 million payment for Hunter to split with his dad and NEVER FORGET how the mainstream media & CIA tried to say that was fake news... Jukraine war a totally Jewish conspiracy.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/businessmen-accused-of-ukraine-money-laundering-gave-millions-to-ny-charities/

These are 3 mainstream media articles I have saved for many years so that folks will know what really happened and how the Perpetual Jew War Machine rolls. This Guardian article from 2007 talks about these nouveau riche Russian Jewish billionaires who have magickally risen from the ashes of the former USSR countries. I thought all that stuff belonged to the Proletariat??? The truth is these new Jew "oligarchs" were ALLOWED to steal everything by the old original Jew fuck families who run the world. The old banking dynasty families and allied criminal Jewish super rich families established totalitarianism in Russia, AND in China, for control of these vast regions, and they called it communism to create a Strategy of Tension between East and West to feed their Permanent Jew War Economy. The arch capitalists of wall street did this, even though it might seem counterintuitive. The deal with these new young Jew front guy "oligarchs" like igor kolomoisky is that they were allowed to steal from the former USSR countries because THEY MAKE WAR for the higher up Jews hiding behind them. A very lucrative business. Jewish bread and butter. Goym slaughtered all around... Bonus for these heinous Jewish criminals. They are a Holocaust upon the earth.. all their lies need exposed hard core

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/02/russia.lukeharding1

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Will Food Forest Permaculture's avatar

Bonus in case any of you actually looked at those 3 articles I just shared here's another short must read from decades ago that explains what is happening today. The masters want their more global , more fascist totalitarian gubbernmint. They want us all to be much more like the average Chinese worker with limited freedoms...

https://lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/37272.html

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KC Erasmus's avatar

And Russia must not stop until they have taken everything from Odessa to Transnistria, and NovoRussia comes into existence, wiping away the stench of filthy Ukrainianism.

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Andre K's avatar

It seems like Russia can’t even bury its own soldiers properly.

“Here are the trucks standing there, they brought corpses on it.”

This is one of the numerous mass graves in the so-called “LDNR.” Human hands and shovels are not enough to deal with the burial of “missing persons” on such an industrial scale.

https://www.threads.net/@saintjavelin/post/DFnoTm2upVb?xmt=AQGz7mn4vYRaQXfiWJtoaUkh6c-J_K7xhU532JuIloe45A

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Hahaha... You should look at the lists that Russia publishes after every KIA swap. The war of attrition is not favoring your Banderan friends.

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B. E. Gordon's avatar

Or maybe Zelensky is lying his a** off when he says Ukraine only lost ~40,000 KIAs.

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KC Erasmus's avatar

Yes, its a mass grave for Ukrainians!!!

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KC Erasmus's avatar

Ukieland has run out of space to plant its dead, and money for flags to put on their graves, so now they're down to digging one big hole, so that they only have to plant one flag.

PS! I suggest you distribute the lime thick and evenly over those dead fellow Banderites of yours, we wouldn't want a starving Ukrainian dog digging up anything other than a bare bone.

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Antiracismlord's avatar

Why do Ukrainians and Russians have animosity between each other?

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Most "Ukrainians" aren't Ukrainian. They are Russ, Romanian, Hungarian, Bulgar and Poles.

The ethnic Ukrainians have long been steeped in nationalism which took a turn for the worse in the early 1900s.

There has been three "Ukraine" nations. All of them started in 1917. The one we are familiar with was Lenin's gift at the expense of Russia. It was added to by Stalin and Kruschev.

The Kruschev (Crimea) gift has been reclaimed. It would be an error if Russia doesn't reclaim all of Lenin's gift. This will ensure that Romania, Hungary, Slovakia and Poland reclaim their lands that Stalin gave away. The Ukrainians will become a Polish problem again.

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KC Erasmus's avatar

Russians had no animosity, in fact they lived in peace as neighbours until 2014, when the CIA deliberately set about causing friction and the Coup that removed the legitimately elected Ukrainian government.

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Andre K's avatar

Did it? Do you remember what happend in Odesa?

Pro Russian activists in Odesa were armed and they killed two Ukrainians in the city center.

The pro Russians later went to their tent camp close to the Trade union building in Odesa.

They were told they should leave but they only replied «fuck off! We ll defend ourselves.

The pro Russians were throwing Molotov cocktails from the roof and as one pro Ukrainian answered «what did they expect? That we would throw them back flowers?»

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Memento Maxolga's avatar

Oh, how nice it is of you and your kind to try to justify the US and their NATO chihuahuas grooming ukro-nazis and starting bloody coup, and nazis burning people alive in Odessa ! What else are you and your kind try to justify ? Ethnic cleansing of Russian population including children in Donbass by ukro-nazis ? Ukro-nazis and their western owners' crimes against humanity, against the civilians in former Ukraine and in Russia?

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Leszek Stalewski's avatar

retarded on so many levels, that it's as comcial as two Puccians living in woke Germany defending their holy motherland with safe distance and a social system.

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B. E. Gordon's avatar

Poles are pathetic. Hating Russia when the real enemy is in London and Brussels, pushing “hate speech laws”, promoting buggery, and allowing in infinite numbers of brown migrants to prey on their girls.

You’d think that if the UK, the EU, and the US Democrat Party and neocons are all supporting Ukraine so hard, that just maybe the Ukrainians are the bad guys.

And some people wonder why Polack jokes exist. You have your priorities awfully twisted, dude.

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Leszek Stalewski's avatar

You are addicted to the internet and the algorithm melted your brain turning you into a NPC.

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Memento Maxolga's avatar

What is in fact absolutely retarded on ALL levels is that Polish person due to his irrational russophobia begins to support ukro-nazis ,-- those who glorify ukies UPA, OUN, Bandera, Shuhevich and other murderous ukro-ultra'nationalists who butchered Pols by thousands ! IOI historical, generational stupidity .

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Leszek Stalewski's avatar

Braindead you are. Russia has been occupying Poland, murdering, torturing and banishing Poles more than a century before Hitler rose to power. Death to Russia. Fucking Russophobia.

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CG Braswell's avatar

Спасибо.

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